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014 Nice Gals Finish First: The Power of Kindness in Business

with

Kat Jones

FOUNDER AND CEO OF MOTIVPR

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Do you ever wonder, “Can I be successful in business if I’m kind to others? Being kind in business doesn’t mean you don’t stand up for yourself or you’re a pushover. Being kind helps you stand out.

My good woman, Kat Jones, has built her company Motiv PR with kindness, front, and center. Motiv PR partners with digital brands to deliver results-driven strategies with invaluable collaboration. Their clients have included Critical Role, Felicia Day, E3, Blind Squirrel Games, and more. And she’s a Marvel alum!

This 10-time veteran of San Diego Comic-Con was also named one of the top PR pros by Business Insider three years in a row.

In this episode, Kat and I discuss:

  • Why being kind in business is a point of distinction
  • Files, folders and organization to help things run smoothly
  • Believers who help you flip the switch from having big dreams to being in business
  • That moment when you realize that you really do know what you’re doing
  • Michelle Obama. Nerds. Geeks. Super fans, Mrs. Betterway. Slimers and go-to karaoke songs.

This episode at a glance:

[07:28] When you start to have the Mrs. Betterway moments, chances are you’re headed down an entrepreneurial path

[12:33] Workshop your business ideas with people and get some reflection back, and if somebody is not into it, it doesn’t mean it’s not a good idea. Maybe something about it needs to be adjusted. And you can continue to refine it before you have to take the risk and ankle your job.

[23:57] I remember being at a company that shall remain unnamed. I loved being there, but one person made it so difficult to enjoy. It was the straw that broke the camel’s back.

[27:30] I think that’s what it boils down to for me: if I didn’t try, I would regret it. So I try having the conversation, and hopefully, there’s a resolution.

[37:01] Everything you need to get started is within arm’s reach. You just have to put your head up and be willing to ask.

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